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margin collapse and nested elements with default padding

  
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
   <html>
        <head>
            <title></title>
            <style type='text/css'>
                div {
                    margin: 20px;
                    padding: 20px;
                    background: #ddd;
                }
                p {
                    padding: 20px;
                    background: #ccc;
                }
            </style>
        </head>
        <body>
        <div>
            <p> No margins, ey?</p>
        </div>
        </body>
    </html>

   
  








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